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Ever won something yet still in someways feel like in the grand scheme of things you really lost? It’s a bitter sweet feeling and one that the Toronto Raptors must be feeling one day after their 87-84 comeback victory over the first place Detroit Pistons. How so you ask? Let me explain.

At first it looked like the Raps were going to buck their current tendency of starting slow as they opened the game on an 8-0 run. That small lead quickly disappeared however and the Raps were behind for much of the game, the deficit generally around 8 points. Suddenly, like many games as of late, someone flicked the switch in the fourth quarter and the deficit was turned into a surplus....or rather the lead and then the win. Highlighted by a three point bank shot at the end of the shot clock my Anthony Parker, a hard drive and finish by Joey Graham and a late steal by TJ Ford the ACC fans were bouncing off the walls. The Raps had stolen a game from the East’s best squad. Something to be excited about heading into playoff time right? Not quite.

True to his word, coach Flip Saunders treated Friday night’s affair as an exhibition match. Detroit’s regular starters played somewhere between 19 and 28 minutes and their leader Chauncey Billups was in street clothes. Generally held to playing the first and third quarters Detroit’s starters did not exactly shoot the lights out, highlighted by a 1-7 performance from Rasheed Wallace, 3-11 from Tayshaun Price and 1-9 from Chris Webber. Although one could probably find a way to give kudos to the Raps D, let there be no mistake about it, the Detroit Piston starters, despite their horrid shooting, still managed to out play the Toronto squad. The king’s of the Eastern Conference put the smack down on the new kids on the block.

The Pistons came at the Raps with a zone defence right from the get-go and the Toronto squad had a terrible time trying to beat it. Bad shooting accompanied by a lack of commitment to attack the zone quickly helped the Raps squander their quick lead. For those portions of the game where Flip had his usual suspects on the floor the Raps couldn’t gain any momentum, let alone get back in the game.

Of course it wasn’t all bad during the first and third quarters for the Raps. Two things in particular stood out in my mind. Obviously the first was the monster performance by Kris Humphries on the glass. Checking into the game with around 4 minutes left in the first quarter, before you could blink the man from Minnesota had four rebounds, three off them on the offensive end. A sure sign of things to come. By games end the Hump had snagged 18 rebounds, NINE of them offensive. NINE!. For those who think the Raps need to get a banger and rebounder in the off-season check your mail this morning because Kris Humphries just sent a message. The ability to get your squad additional possessions is huge and Hump was simply awesome in this regard. On top of his rebounding showcase Hump was also solid on the defensive end and blocked three shots. (As a side note Hoffa has never blocked more than 2 in a game and has a TOTAL of 16 in his career.)

The second, maybe not so obvious thing I liked about the Raps tonight (again, while the Pistons starters were on the floor) was Joey Graham. I know, I know the reaction is probably "Huh?" Hear me out. I think we saw a different Joey on the floor tonight. One that we may have never seen before. It was not a classic case of "Bad Joey" but rather "Good Joey" having a bad night. You may not see the difference but I definitely do. Graham, despite a below average shooting still looked very confident on the floor, took good shots and showed great versatility on the defensive end. Mitchell did a great job using Graham having him defend not only Tayshaun, but also Jason Maxiell. Graham was solid against both and considering there may not be two more different players on the Pistons roster you have to give full props to Joey. One player loves the post and is an absolute hog, while the other looks like a relative of ET.

Of course the Raps did WIN this game and watching the come from behind victory was an exciting one at that. When Flip turned to his bench the wheels fell off and the Raps starters took it to them. Despite being entertained however, what else can you take from the game? You have to believe the Raps starters would take it to the second stringers for the Pistons every time. If not, then the Raps will have no chance should these teams meet at some point in the playoffs. This is of course the exact message the Pistons were trying to send.

It’s not to say that the Pistons bench is not a strong one. Maxiell, McDyess, veteran Lindsay Hunter, and despite the obvious differences between he has with Coach Saunders Carlos Delfino, all make for a strong bench. The Raps did however mount their comeback against guys like Ronald Dupree and late second pick Amir Johnson as well.

Speaking of late second round picks the HQ was informed of some very disappointing news last evening. Although common knowledge that the Raps do not have a pick in the first round of this years NBA Draft (and it would cost and arm and a leg to get one considering the players coming out), as of today they also do not have a second round pick. Can anyone tell us why? Nah, didn’t think so. Try the John Wallace deal in 1997. Yes, ten years ago. According to RealGM:
"2007 second round draft pick to Portland: Toronto’s own 2007 2nd round pick to Portland (top 50 protected in 2007, top 50 protected in 2008, top 50 protected in 2009, top 50 protected in 2010, top 50 protected in 2011, top 50 protected in 2012, and unconditionally in 2013). [Portland – Toronto, 10/10/1997]"

Toronto’s pick is currently number 52 in the second round. Should Toronto keep that position the Raps will be out of the draft all together. It could be a quiet draft, and summer ladies and gents. We do however take solace in the fact that if there is a deal to be made Colangelo is on it, and you know we at the HQ will still find lots to talk about.

Another interesting note from last night’s game was the attendance of Vince Carter’s mom at the ACC. Sitting courtside it has been quite sometime since Michelle Carter has graced the ACC with her presence. Carter obviously still has ties to the city (last time I checked he still owned part of the Inside) and attending an exciting basketball game is something Michelle has not seen in quite some time so I wouldn’t take much from it. In particular I would advise not thinking about the return of VC (that means you Marty York). What was absolutely hysterical though is that at no point during the game did she express any emotion. Not once. Even as the game got closer in the final stretches Michelle didn’t applaud, didn’t stand, didn’t even smile. It appeared that she was there with "Super Fan". Not so "Super" I say as the man with court side seats also showed little emotion during the Raps win as he must have been appeasing his guest. In the end the question I have about this whole scene is "Why even come?" If you are not there for a good time and are going to sit and pout for the whole game, what’s the point? Even when I was in Foxburough watching the Pats (a team I hate with a passion), it was still hard not to cheer and get into the game.

At the end of the day the Raps have learned a very important lesson from the win over the Pistons. That lesson? Be ready to take your game to another level come playoff time. Those teams that have been to the top of the mountain know what it takes, and what it takes is a better performance that what was shown last night.

HOWLAND

PS: A shout out to those I attended the game with last night and good luck to the individual that promised she would eat 10 MAMMOTH cookies in one sitting if the Raps stole the victory. Good luck!

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You can’t put enough lipstick on that pig.

It’s a bit deflating that we can barely, just barely, keep pace with the Pistons scrubs on our home court. Wow, that message was loud and clear, we are not quite ready for prime time.

Aside from shots not falling, the biggest disappointment for me was Bosh. It took till 4:45 left in the 4th quarter before he made his first post up move. His second, and last of the game, came with a minute and change. This team is not built to survive against anyone without having a power forward. If he insists on playing the small forward role, we are in trouble. I don’t care how big they are, you take it inside and you take it hard. You will no doubt lose some balls, but last night he had none!

by Erezona on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Parker was, once again, the man of the match for me. And I am very happy to being proven really wrong about Humpries and Graham, I never thought they could reach the level they are playing as of late (specially Humpries), and their very important contributions have made up a lot for the losses of Garbs and Bargs.

Oh and, even though he made it this time, i didn't like the final play setup for TJ at the end... It is so predictable it makes you wonder if the pistons' scouts had also been given a rest (like Billups).

by Sergi P on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's not get carried away here. If anyone, at the beginning of the season, had said we would be right near the top of the Eastern Conference standings with Detroit, you would have shaken your head. The Raps are definitely an up and coming team, but Detroit is still the class of the conference. They're big, tough and better defensively at every position with the possible exception of shooting guard (Anthony Parker over Rip).

Not much we can do about the draft, especially in regards to getting a first rounder. It would be nice to add a Corey Brewer or a Jeff Green to this team, but that's the price of winning (not to mention a terrible Grunwald trade). But this is already a young team that should improve just by dint of the young players gaining more experience. If Colangelo sees a player he likes slip into the second round, he might make a play for him, but otherwise I think he'll stand relatively pat. Candidates for that role might include Derrick Byars and, at the very outside, Arron Afflalo.

by Skywalker on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Of all the "who do we want to play" talk, this Pistons' squad is the one I think the Raps need to avoid at all costs. Totally agree with you Erezona, Bosh once again wasn't aggressive enough. Yes he was solid on the glass, but when both clubs are throwing up bricks, there are lots of rebounds to be had. What bothered me the most was that CB4's first foul shots came so late in the game AND on a jump shot!!

Finally, props to Jack Armstrong for chastizing any Raps fans that will be attending playoff games only to sit at the ACC eating sushi and talking on their cell phones. As he put it best "ya gotta get rowdy for playoff time Chuck!"

by Franchise on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Who cares who Detroit had on the floor. A win against a team that we could play in the Eastern Conf. Finals gives us a little mental boost. You better believe Detroit will want to win the next match against us. To lose twice to us (no matter who they have on the floor) is not good for any team mentally. They can not afford to give us any advantage. The raptors feed off this stuff.

Joey, Kris and AP, awesome again last night.

Great to see Garbs there! GO RAPS!!

by jjay on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

PS - Agree Skywalker. We'll be talking draft when that time comes around regardless as if anyone can get a player out of nothing to help the club, it will be BC.

That being said...JOHN WALLACE!! AAAAAAAARGH!

by Franchise on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Franchise, I was actually thinking of the deal than sent a first rounder to Cleveland for (ulp) Lamond Murray. Not that you're wrong about Wallace. It's hard to believe he single handedly carried Syracuse to the NCAA final and then turned out to be a total dud.

One other potential second rounder I forgot to mention was, believe it or not, Brandon Rush. I can't believe a player of his calibre would slip into the second round, but that's where Draftnet ranks him right now. He doesn't have eye-popping athleticism, but he's solid at both ends of the floor and was one of the better Jayhawks in this year's tourney.

by Skywalker on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the Joey Graham thing. I think he did a great job on defense, not biting on the assortment of fakes, and his shooting was ok, as long as he was driving hard to the basket or spotting up, but his hustle and rebounding was just so gone, it wasn't funny. There was that one play where he had a rebound within his reach, and he didn't go for it. He was lucky the Detroit player knocked it out of bounds, as Bosh REALLY got on him for not going after it.

by Kinnon Yee on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

What cares about the draft and the 52nd pick? The last thing this team needs is more rookies or young players, especially someone from the bottom of the draft. Contrary to popular belief, this draft is not deep 1 thru 60. Try 1 thru 32 and thats about it. The rest of the players are projects

by Blaxx on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Blaxx,

I am definitely not suggesting there is an impact player to be had at the end of the draft. Projects? Yes. Euros? Yes. Just pointing out that it is one less asset. Slokar was a late second rounder and I think we all see a little something in him. He is an asset.

Simply pointing out we have no picks...at this point.

by Howland on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think we should put too much stock in this game. It was a hollow victory indeed, but we should remember that Bosh didn't bring his A game (or B game for that matter). You could see Bosh almost acting as a coach on the floor trying to get the other players going. He only went to the line once, so it's not like he got owned by Amir Johnson.

What I really liked about Humps' 18 boards was that he got them against the Pistons second line bangers, guys who are trying to earn a pay cheque doing exactly what Hump is charged with doing. Hump just did it better.

Also, when the Raps fell behind early it happened with a line-up of Joey, Hump, Jackson, Calderon and Parker.

by MazelTov on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't forget we have 2 starters injured/sick.

by slammajama on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Turned off game at end of third- only found out they won on the radio later. I think it showed that Detroit has got a pretty deep team as well along with a better(more experienced)starting five.
But lets give Raptors credit, once again they showed they can come back in a game. TJ earned his money last night.

by Tinman on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Early on in the game, I couldn't get over how huge the starting line for the Pistons was. With a front line of Webber, Wallace, and Prince all around 6'10 (all three of which can shoot from the perfimeter) and Billups at 6'4' they have huge size advantage over the Raps at pretty much every position. If the Raps meet the Pistons down the road, I think a healthy Bargnani is crucial both on offense and defence guarding guys like Wallace and McDyess on the perimeter.

by raptorfan on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Sergi, I have to disagree with you about the final play for TJ. I thought it was terrific. First of all, we were having difficulty going inside all night. If TJ could get a look, the right play is to take it inside. Secondly, TJ didn’t come off the bench cold, he has been in the game. A call to go to your fastest guy to break down the defence and take it to the hole is the right one.

The reason it was ok now and not a few games back is because TJ wasn’t on the floor for a full quarter before they ran this play previously.

Also, as you know by reading my posts, I am very disappointed with local media coverage of the Raptors. I sent an e-mail to the Globe about my level of dissatisfaction. I encourage everyone to send e-mails such as:

TSN: Hope to see more Raptors ball next year
Sportsnet: Hope to see more Raptors ball next year and see some basketball highlights earlier in your broadcast
Score: Great job broadcasting games, please keep it up next year
Globe: see below
Raptors: Please try your best to get all games on regular tv next year

The more we write, the more of a chance something will happen. We have to take this to the streets!

Following is the e-mail I sent the Globe addressed to GlobeSports@globeandmail.com with a copy to mgrange@globeandmail.com

" have been very dissatisfied with your commitment to covering the National Basketball Association in your newspaper of late. Your treatment of basketball as a minor league sport is absolutely unacceptable. The Raptors are an exciting young team and show a lot of promise. There is a lot of buzz about them and many people are taking interest. Your basketball coverage today, April 14, 2007 (this has been consistently the same everyday) is buried on page 6 behind hockey, the Boston Marathon, Golf, more hockey, the scoreboard, baseball, yet more hockey, the weather and then we finally get to your basketball coverage right next to the obituaries.

On days following Raptor games, I expect to see some coverage on the front pages of your sports section. You have a great basketball writer in Grange and it’s a shame he’s buried in the back. I can’t understand why with just as many teams as the NHL, I need a magnifying glass to read the standings of the NBA while the NHL standings are twice the size.

I certainly hope that you will refocus your commitment to NBA basketball as I for one am reconsidering my subscription at this point."

by Erezona on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Why the worry abou the 2007 draft. If nee be, Colangelo can pull off another trade (e.g. Pape Sow for a first rounder). What do you say?

by RaptorChicken on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps just playing devil's advocate, though I would like to see how many wins the Raps got over .500 teams that didn't have one of their top 2 scorers out for injury, etc.. While the Raps had their share of injuries, I'm curious if their record is a good indication of the kind of team they really are.

by Acie on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Everyone is such a downer today. Over 82 games everything pretty much evens out for every team. You can't 'beat the spread', except insofar as playing more teams in the east gets you a better record. Everyone seems to think Chicago is the real deal - we played the same teams Chicago did, and our records are almost identical. Plus we absolutely owned them the other night.

Are the 'real' Pistons at another level? Of course - their championship team, they've been to the top before, and their top players have been playing together for years. But we did almost steal one in Detroit, and next time maybe our shooters will hit the wide-open looks they usually do when a team doubles Bosh. Add in a couple of big 3's from AB and we're all singing a different tune...

by D on Apr 15, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Erezona, i was not against that particular play in itself, but I do think that it is a pitty that for those final seconds we don't seem to have any plan more sophisticated than "give the ball to TJ and pray". I can understand he may be considered our best option in those situations, but I think it would be wise to sometimes diversify and go for other guys (think AP, Bosh) so that the final play is less predictable.

by Sergi P on Apr 15, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Take this game for what it was. Rap's did not play well (could not put the ball in the basket in the ist half) Played decent defense, even against the Piston's starters. And most importantly won the game to stay 2-1/2 ahead of Miami.
As a measure against Detroit not applicable. But that is not as important as the win, their first this year when shooting under 40%.

by Johnn19 on Apr 15, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't know, I didn't see a huge drop off in play when the bench went in. They are a good group and were hitting their shots. This is a really good team whose strategy is to take bosh out of the offense. I'm still in shock they came back in that one, the zone really shook them up. I like the play for ford again, much uglier yet this one went in... he's a hero!!

by axl on Apr 15, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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