Tip-In: Toronto Raptors Post-Game - A Familiar Refrain
Someone was either reading our site, or reading our mind.
Andrea Bargnani got the start last night against the Suns and it looks like he’ll be in the starting lineup for the foreseeable future. As much as I think that Rasho is still a better starter at the 5 for Toronto, this move was a long time coming. If CB4 and Il Mago really are the future for this team, they need to get comfortable playing together and as I mentioned yesterday, Bryan Colangelo and co. also need to figure out if this isn’t going to work. The only way to do that of course is to get them playing together.
We’ll have to see how this works out. Sam Mitchell apparently spoke with Bryan Colangelo after the loss in Seattle and the two agreed that a change was in order:
"We just feel like we need to get Andrea going," said Mitchell. Rasho did what we need him to do, we're 15-13, but for us to get where we want to go and be the team we hope to be we all believe that eventually Andrea has to be the starting centre."
An interesting statement indeed.
Andrea finished with 13 points in last night’s loss on six of 13 shooting but was not the main culprit in the loss. Once again it was Toronto’s defensive execution which allowed Phoenix to shoot 52 per cent from the field.
A Numbers Game:
32 to 10.
It looked like the Raptors had more than 10 assists last night but in any event, you saw first hand if you watched last night’s game just how important it is for the Raptors to help out Chris Bosh. CB4 did it all but because of Phoenix coach Mike D’Antoni’s refusal to double-team the young Texan, the Raptors didn’t get the open looks they normally do on the perimeter. And when they did get them, they just weren’t knocking them down. Dead-eye sniper Jason Kapono was an uncharacteristic three for 11 from the floor and as a result, Toronto played too much one-on-one last night for the team to be successful.
Turning Point:
Surprise, surprise, the start of the third quarter. Toronto actually was within five at half but poor defensive rebounding at the start of the second half did them in. In the first half the Raptors generally kept the Suns to a "one and done" type of offensive display but in the third players like Amare Stoudamire and Shawn Marion reeked havoc on the glass giving
Case in point - Steve Nash with 2:30 left in the quarter out-rebounded the entire Raptor club and then found Barbosa for an open 3. Perhaps it was the road-weary legs but the Raptors just couldn’t match their first half intensity in the second and against such an explosive and rested opponent, that spelt doom.
Temperature Check:
Hot - Chris Bosh: As Raptors fans we are sometimes quick to jump on CB4 if he underperforms or fails to look to lead his team. Well last night Bosh did everything he was asked to and more for Toronto. He scored a career-high 42 points, grabbed 13 rebounds and got to the line 24 times making 22 of them. Unfortunately he got little help from his team-mates as Phoenix was content not to double and let CB4 get his.
Hot - Steve Nash: It’s going to be a sad day when Nash stops lacing them up. His ball skills are unparalleled and in the third quarter he showed them off time and time again, carving the Raptors defense into little pieces. He finished with 16 assists and showed once again why he’s so important to the Suns attack.
Hot - Leandro Barbosa: Barbosa has been in the habit lately of torching the Raptors and last night was no different. The "Brazilian Blur" had 31 points starting in place of Raja Bell hitting SEVEN of the 10 three-point shots he took. Toronto had no answer for Barbosa all night and while Grant Hill, Shawn Marion and Amare Stoudemire all played terrifically, Barbosa was the real Dino-killer.
Moving On:
The tough thing about this loss for me was that it just re-emphasized how bad the loss to Seattle the night before was. Had the Raptors given the effort they did last night against the Sonics, the outcome probably would have been a lot different. The Raptors defence still needs a lot of work, but you have to give Phoenix a lot of credit - they’re simply a much superior club at present and hit nearly every open look they got.
Sam Mitchell post-game mentioned that the Christmas break was coming at the right time and I have to agree. Had things ended after Seattle it would have left an ugly hangover but the team can take some solace even in last night’s loss. They finally got some solid offensive production from Andrea Bargnani, Chris Bosh had his best offensive game of the year, and even playing their fourth game in five nights, Toronto came out with the energy it needed to win this game. It would have been a lot easier to fold up shop and mail this one in like a late Christmas card, but Toronto put their best foot forward early on and made their best go of things.
With a few days off now for Christmas, it will be very interesting to see just how the Raptors come out against San Antonio. The Raptors have actually played well against the Spurs the past few years and hopefully will come out of the gate with some energy. Even more importantly, I’ll be keeping a close eye on the starting situation. Jamario Moon is bringing nothing to the table at present and hopefully he needs a rest and not a place back on the bench. Carlos Delfino hasn’t shot the ball that well but has brought other intangibles to court that the Raptors sorely need from their starters. And while getting Andrea and Chris on the court together is all fine and dandy, will this translate to wins if Bargnani doesn’t step up his defence and rebounding?
Bryan Colangelo joined Check and Leo in the first quarter for a chat and was obviously still high on Andrea’s potential in the league. He talked about Bargnani’s struggles but reinforced the idea that he and Chris were the team’s future and needed to play together.
Whether "playing together" means starting or just being the first option of the bench is another matter and if this team’s defence and energy to start games doesn’t improve and the losses keep piling up, we may hear BC singing a different tune.
FRANCHISE
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It was good to hear Colangelo saying JC is a keeper and they will find a way to sign Him. Whaat does Barg's staarting going to do to Rasho? No PT last night!
by Davl on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
CB4 best game of the year so far. He didn't hold the ball for 5 seconds outside the key deciding what to do. He got the ball and attacked. With no double team coming it was the most aggressive I've seen him.
With TJ out its glaring how much this team still needs someone who can get to the hoop regularly. As constructed the Raptors will get to the playoffs and maybe 2nd round but that's it. After the 2009 season BC's got to make a big play.
How happy is Andre Iguodala in Philly? Think he'd be willing to be 2nd option on a team in Canada? Hmmmmmm.
by Todd on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Todd
What makes U think Philly will trade Iguodala?
by Davl on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Good move starting Bargs, and the shots he took without thinking were really good. He had a couple "flashes" to the ball where he caught and shot right away and they were solid. He still had a couple of "ahhh I'm going to go 5 different ways" but I can forgive him. CB4 was ridiculous. The Suns had NO answer for him. The one thing I saw was I think the rest of the team was GASSED! DONE! TIRED! Take your pick. Barbosa was insane! Once again i found myself talking to the TV saying to Sammy....will you put someone in who can guard this guy??
What is up with Moon? He has been no where in the last 3 games?? He is relying on his outside shot waaaaayyyyy too much and he needs to get back to slashing and driving to the hoop! I mean they replayed the alley-oop Jose threw him last night from trail, and court level, Mmy god man you can fly, at least try and go and get that one! You didn't even try! At least Sammy saw this. Maybe Jermario should see the game from where Joey has been watching as of late and get a little inspired!!!!
Great interview with BC on thescore during the game!! He is such a class guy!
Anyway just want to pass on Seasons Greetings and Happy holidays to all my fellow bloggers here on the best Raptor blog on the web! Safe and good time to all!
I'm out! got Christmas at the folks today! Can't wait to see my kids FREAK out!
Fresh 1
by fresh 1 on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Davl,
About Iguodala I was just dreaming. Isn't he a free agent soon? Management isn't convinced he's a franchise player. He can't be happy with that message after being left to pick up the pieces when AI left. I love his all around game and y'never know.
by Todd on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
The Raps actually came out on fire last night, Until the refs cooled them off. Is it just me or do the refs have it in for our boys.
by Sorael on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
I think it's obvious now bargs felt slighted by the move to the bench and maybe rightfully slow. The way he moves and passes sometimes, I start to think he's ahead of cb4 and his teammates and they're not ready yet for his style of play. Rasho is a dinosaur compared to him. One thing I've noticed from the start is cb4 is rarely ready for passes from bargs and doesn't pass to him himself. These guys need to work together and use each other as decoys like nash and stoudamire do.
by axl on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Great quote from Smith's blog today:
"You know who needs these days off more than anyone? Chris Bosh.
There’s about four minutes to go in the third quarter Saturday night, Bosh is absolutely bagged. The Hump’s at the table and when he gets called into the game, a weary Bosh walks from the lane towards the bench. Ah, nope. Hump’s there to get Bargnani and Bosh has to stay in, despite being absolutely worn out. He didn’t complain, though, just turned around, went back to the game and busted his butt for about another five possessions before he finally got a blow. I know things are going badly and all, but that kid is playing his head off every night."
We often forget how lucky we are to have this kid. He may not lead by yelling and screaming a la KG, but this kid leads by setting the best possible example of what it means to be a pro. Sometimes he struggles, but when his development catches up with his heart and determination, it's gonna be scary! Thank God for CB4!
by MAS on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
I hope everyone who was comparing bargs to hoffa was watching last night. first two plays showed why bargs is worth the effort. I agree with axl aswell, two of the best plays last night were passes from andrea to chris that chris wasnt ready for. give these two time together, and we'll be in a better spot.
Got the feeling from bc that ford might be on the trading block, calderon not going anywhere
by adam on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Adam said "Got the feeling from bc that ford might be on the trading block"
I came away from listening to the conversation with a different conclusion. My take was JC was a keeper and wants to resign JC but said nothing about trading TJ. Hopefully He does not trade Him. Maybe Your reading between the lines are better than Mine.
Happy holidays to all Its been very enjoyable for the most part reading the blogs on this site. Stay safe over the holidays and Go Raptors Go!
by Davl on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Franchise, before the game I called for re-inserting AB in the starting unit. I was yelling at the TV when I heard Andrea will be starting for the foreseable future.
With CB playing like yesterday, Jose Steady Hand as the floor general and AB with 18/6/3 I see a bright future for the Raps.
The basketball gods have spoken. Now let's relax and enjoy. Merry Christmas everyone!
by Daniel on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Just got the feeling when he said jose back at anycost, and that "tj still in our plans for now, and our prayers" i like tj, but bc all business and tj's condition make's him a liability. get him back, get a few games in, and trade. Package in one or two of our wings and we could get something good. It great to see bargs back in the saddle, him and bosh out future
by adam on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Adam. I listened to the interview I did not hear what you hear also had they have Tj we would not be loosing so many games, I think Rasho should be in the starting lineup and Barg comes off the bench, right I am just a bit fed up with the Raptors, Jose always try to clutch play just like in the playoff and the ball goes way off short. THey need to get TJ back in action this is crazy they are no 5th or 6th in the East they were at 4th and they lost all those games and don't think they are going to win the next 3 WE NEED TJ BACK!!!!!
by Marcia on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
im not saying tj isnt great for the raptors, or we wouldnt of won if we had him, i just caught the trade vibe. Maybe im way off, but an injury prone player with spinal problems being traded while he still has market value isnt such a strech of the imagination.
by adam on Dec 23, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Interesting to look at the schedule:
January - probable 6 wins out 13. Feb probable 7 out of 12. March- probable 10 out of 17 and for April 5 out of 8. That's 28 more wins and about 44 for the year.
Right now we're 6th in the east with New Jersey and Cleveland likely to pass us.
So it's likely a tough play off schedule for the Raps in the spring.
by Rt on Dec 24, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
I think we all need to remember that the Raps are a team in Transition. Last year they won a crappy division and so everyone (in Toronto at least) expected them to be a very good team this year. The reality is that they have a lot of youth on this team and it is only because of Bosh and TJ that the team is further along then they were last year. They still need a 2nd option on Offense to be effective. When someone else steps up (be it TJ, Bargnani or another) they are a more dangerous team. TJ is out and Bargs has been inconsistent and as a result the raps have also been inconsistent and this shouldn't suprise anyone.
Also, I hate to be the one to beat a dead horse but why is Anthony Parker getting a free ride in all the posts. Over the last 4 games he has given Toronto very little in the way of consistency. For the record he is averaging 9 points like 1.5 rebounds, 2.5 asts, and 1 stl. And averaging like 28 minutes per game. He has twice given 2 or less points in games including a 0 point effort in 30 minutes against the clippers (at the beginning of the stretch of games). How is Toronto suppose to be competitive if one of the key starters is providing absolutely no consistency at the 2 guard spot? Is there something I am missing here? Against Phoenix he played only 18 minutes and provided 2 points, 1 steal and 3 fouls while Juan (i cant get off the bench to save my life) Dixon gave 4 points, 6 rebounds and 4 asts in only like 6 more minutes. This is the serious issue with the Raps, not Bargs' inconsitency (which should have been anticipated). Not Moon who couldn't even make an NBA team before this year.
I have noticed before how Parker continues to provide underwhelming numbers from the 2 spot and everyone blames others on the team for not picking up the slack. Parker needs to provide a consistent 14 points and some asts, steals and rebounds, if this team is to have success (as he did much of last year).
by McGateway on Dec 24, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Great move by BC to force Mitchell to start AB. The celts are running away with the division so we're in the race for that; and the others behind us haven't, to this point, been that threatening. Developing the young players is the best move under the circumstances. We should still be able to make the playoffs.
by mycall on Dec 24, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions

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