3 In the Key - Toronto Raptors Game-Day Preview vs. Sonics
What if Jordan had been drafted and not Bowie?
How did Arenas and Boozer fall so low? What if they had been scooped up by teams early in the first round?
And now of course we’re getting lots of the "was Andrea the right choice at 1?" talk.
This year could have added another chapter to the NBA Draft’s "what if" saga - Durant vs. Oden.
Of course Oden was injured and looks to be out for his entire rookie year but it would have been very interesting. Especially because the Blazers have been so successful without Oden and Durant hasn’t exactly looked like the second coming of MJ or the cross between KG and TMac that many thought. That’s not to say that he hasn’t had his brilliant moments - after all, he is still basically a teenager. But here at the HQ we thought instead of pure speculation, let’s get some takes from one of the websites that follows the Sonics closer than anyone else -
We asked Peter Nussbaum from Supersonicsoul his take on Durant as part of our standard "three questions with the opposing team’s blogger:"
1) RaptorsHQ - Kevin Durant entered the league with more hype than anyone since Lebron James and was heralded by some as a cross between MJ and KG. He's struggled shooting the ball at times, and hasn't been the runaway rookie of the year candidate maybe some expected, but give us your take...has he lived up to the hype and how do you see his career progressing?
Supersonicsoul - I think that it could be argued Durant hasn't lived up to the hype surrounding him, but that's because the hype was unrealistic. As long as he's making progress, I'm happy with him. As proof, look at his FGA/PPG: In October, he took 22 shots and averaged 18.1 ppg. In December, he's still averaging 18 a game, but it only takes him 15 shots to get there. Bottom line is that he's a 6'9" shooting guard/small forward who can hit 3s, shoots 80+ from the foul line, gets to the line about 6 times a night (as a rookie, I might add), and has a ton of ways to get points. Obviously, he needs to get bigger and work on his rebounding and defense. But if the draft were held today, he'd be the #1 pick overall, and I'm including Greg Oden.
2) RaptorsHQ: I think lost in the mess that is the New York Knicks, is that the saddest story in the NBA regarding a longtime franchise is the possible departure of the Sonics. As a huge pre-400 pounds Shawn Kemp fan, I'd be outraged to see the team move. For our readers who haven't been following the story - how real of a threat is the move and what are your feelings surrounding all of this?
Supersonicsoul - The threat of the Sonics moving is very real, simply because Clay Bennett wants to move and David Stern 1) likes Clay Bennett and 2) needs to keep the possibility of franchises moving viable, if only to blackmail other cities into caving into the demands of their teams. I would put the odds of them moving at about 40%, which is an improvement of the 60-70% I felt three months ago. There will be some info coming out in the next few months regarding a local proposal for a refurbished KeyArena, and that could swing the tide back in Seattle's direction. As much as Stern likes Bennett, he won't let the Sonics move if a decent arena is on the table in Seattle. Right? Right?
3) RaptorsHQ: Finally - onto tonight's match. What do you see as the keys to a Sonics victory?
Supersonicsoul - For the Sonics to win, they have to play someone other than the Raptors. Seriously, look at who the Sonics have beaten this year: Atlanta, Miami (in D-Wade's first game back), Milwaukee, the Clippers, New York, and Minnesota. The Heat will possibly make the playoffs, but the other five are playing golf next spring. If you've got Calderon on your fantasy team, I'd rush right over and put him in your starting lineup for the game, because there is no better way for a PG to rack up big numbers than to play the Sonics. Final score? Toronto 98-Sonics 89.
Thanks Peter, some great stuff and interesting point about the play at the 1 - which ties into our first key for a Raps’ W.
1) Point guard play. Supersonicsoul.com yesterday had an interesting post concerning point guard play against the Sonics this season.
As you can see, the Sonics have had major problems when playing the league’s premier point guards and right now Jose Calderon is definitely among them. He has by far the best assist-to-turnover ratio in the league and is behind names like Nash, Kidd, Paul, and Davis in assists...that’s some pretty elite company. Therefore I’m not worried about Jose tonight, no, I’m SLIGHTLY concerned about his back-up.
News is beginning to trickle in that TJ Ford might not be as "ok" as was originally thought, a scary prospect not only considering the back-up option right now is Darrick "trigger-happy" Martin, but also considering Ford’s health in terms of his future as a player in the league.
Period.
As the Toronto Star article mentions, this raises some interesting questions for Bryan Colangelo who now may need to cut Martin and look for a legit back-up option as for some reason, Juan Dixon is wasting away.
I’d love to see BC make a play for Dallas’ JJ Bareas, a player who we wanted Toronto to grab in the second round of the draft a couple of years back. Dallas seems pretty high on him but maybe taking on one of their less than desirable contracts and shipping Dixon off to them, whose deal expires after the season, would make them bite.
Perhaps that’s not so realistic but what about this scenario which works financially:
The Raps take on Dan Gadzuric’s evil contract and grab point guard prospect Ramon Sessions from the Bucks in exchange for Joey Graham, Dixon and Maceo Baston. That clears space for the Bucks, and rids them of players they already have a surplus of. I don’t know about you but I’d much rather have Gadzuric’s shot-blocking off the bench than Baston’s occasional rebound.
Or looking at some other teams with a surplus of 1’s, a deal of Dixon and Graham going to Houston for Kirk Snyder and Luther Head would work under the NBA’s trade rules. Snyder and Graham are essentially the same player, Dixon would give the Rockets some veteran experience and scoring off the bench and moving Head would help clear up their logjam at the 1. Most importantly however, it would give the Raptors a nice change of pace point at the 1 who can knock down shots from long-range and play the 2 when the Raps go small.
And finally just for entertainment’s sake...
Jorge Garbajosa and Damon Stoudamire’s contracts match up pretty well...
2) Get on the Glass. While Seattle is not exactly burning up the league on offense or defence, they are the third best rebounding team in the league. Players like Chris Wilcox, Kurt Thomas and Nick Collison are all excellent rebounders and Toronto has to make a concerted effort to box out. In addition, Sonics like Kevin Durant, Damien Wilkins and Jeff Green are all excellent rebounders at their respective positions and if Toronto doesn’t control the boards, easy put-backs could kill the Raps all night. Seattle is the fourth worst field-goal shooting team in the league so allowing easy scores in the paint off of offensive rebounds is a recipe for disaster.
3) Be aggressive on offence. As has been the trend all season, when the Raptors settle for jump shots and have little presence at the free-throw line, bad things happen. In their 12 losses this year, the Raptors are averaging a measly 16 free throw attempts per game. The Sonics are one of the worst defensive teams in the league allowing their opponents to score 105 points per game on average so Toronto should be able to have their way on O. However this means mixing things up on the attack and putting team-mates in a position to succeed.
After the Portland game Chris Bosh made some curious comments about the Raptors chastising each other too much. There still hasn’t been much clarification on this, but it seems that instead of encouraging each other in a positive manner, the club has been getting in a habit of criticizing each other after missed shots etc. This seems strange considering the great chemistry that we always see surrounding the team, and I think what CB4 was really referring to was the team’s lack of confidence when the chips are down.
Bosh said post-game:
"We're hoping we don't mess up. You see the Blazers, they're shooting the ball. Brandon Roy is shooting the ball. Martell Webster is shooting the ball, and they're just letting it go. They're shooting to make the shot. They're not hoping it goes in. Martell Webster is at half-court before it even goes in. He just knows it's going in. We have to be like that and show confidence like that."
Nuff said. Watching the game you’d have to agree with Bosh’s analysis as Portland, even when down, seemed to be the more confident of the two teams and the Raptors need to start playing with some swagger.
Now if only we could give that former top pick of ours a dose of Durant’s swagger....
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Not going to say this was going to happene to Ford (hope not serious) but it was/is always a posibility of TJ getting seriously hurt at any time. That is why I favour JC as the teams future.
by Davl on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Lots of negative comments on Bargnani after the Portland game. IMHO, he's a rough diamond that needs to be expertly cut by the right coaching staff. My only concern is that Mitchell may not be right for his development. Only time will tell. Finally, as the next two games after tonight are going to be tough, we need to win tonight so that we can end the year above 500.
Go Raps!
by tfan on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Who's showing up tonight?
Hey, let's start DMart so Jose can get some rest before coming in to play catch-up.
Laughed at Doug Smith calling us Raptor fans dramatic.
Of course! We've had our due success snatched away from us time and time again due to atrocious management and very spotty coaching (at best).
At least a lot of us aren't Leaf fans ("did we win?who cares!let's honk our frickin horns and puke on the subway!")
PS I want Horford's head on a flippin platter...I told y'all this was a punk move...only considered "accident" because of injury......no I won't drop it.
Finally, Bosh's comments are telling...the difference between not bad and good are, like Tony Montana says ONIONS BABY.
Merry Christmas!
by DayOner on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
The problem with Bargnani right now is that he fouls at such an alarming rate.
He averages one personal foul for every seven minutes. He's supposed to be developing but, can't because he has trouble staying on the basketball court. How does Mitchell make plays for someone that can't stay on the court - you can't.
He plays his best basketball at the small forward position, but can't defend there because he's too slow.
When he plays center he'll hack his opposition because he's undersized underneath the basket.
Also the Raptors don't need extra offense from Bargnani because the Raptors have so many shooting weapons already. So we're really depending on him for defence.
The bright side of the situation with Il Mago is that the Raptors are still a young team with a young nucleus. The teams that are ahead of us in the Eastern Conference are the Pistons and Celtics, which both have veteran leadership and have been tested in the playoffs. Orlando is still a question mark, they've been losing a lot lately.
So I say we should enjoy the development of Bargnani and maybe he will reach his potential and we'll get a great player for nothing, but at the moment, the probability of him being a bust right now is much much higher than him being the next Dirk Nowitzki.
But, if Bargnani doesn't show any improvement in a month, then he's definitely a bust.
by Bargs Bust on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
It makes sense, the blazers have "swagger". They're a new, young team, with no expectations whatsover and they're sneaking up on teams.
Sound familiar?
The raptors -every team is taking them seriously, expectations have increased exponentially and so the Raps are playing tight, which is ok, because the playoffs are played tight.
At the end of the day, we're fine, bargs is developing and we're poised to be in the playoff mix for the forseeable future. Good time to be a raptor fan.
It's kinda too bad about the internet, because it gives every spastic whiner a voice... That's why I like the balanced attack of this site. Props to the HQ!!
by axl on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
At least a lot of us aren't Leaf fans ("did we win?who cares!let's honk our frickin horns and puke on the subway!")
Still laughing.
Looking forward to a big win tonight with lots of garbage time for Bargs so he gets his grooooove back.
by fromlongrange on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Re: Bargnani
Andrea Bargnani is a fantastic basketball talent and he is going to be one of best players to ever put on Raptors uniform. The fact that he is struggling now, doesn't concern me at all. That is because he has shown us what he's capable of last season and at the start of this season. He has a soft touch, almost unlimited range, ice in his veins, excellent court vision and creativity (behind the back bounce alley-up to Bosh), can run well and move laterally, and he is 7 feet tall.
Right now his confidence is low and he is struggling consequently. That happens to all players in the league at some point. But players find confidence as fast as they loose it, and Bargnani will get his back. And when he does, he will be better than before. I have no doubts about that.
On the other hand, if Bargnani continued to struggle this season and it carried over into the next, I might consider calling him a bust, but to do so NOW is to be ignorant of the game of basketball and its patterns.
In fact, my personal opinion is that people try to attract attention to themselves by saying something outrageous as Bargnani is a bust.
As for tonight's game, I predict Raptors beat Sonics by 10 points, and its not going to be close.
by benjo on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
As a follow up to the question a few posts ago, I wasn't the dude with the Raptors Jersey (and no T-Shirt). Talked to him though, he's also a Toronto transport to LA. I was to his right, closer to center court; behind chuck and Leo. White shirt, blue blazer.
Franchise, I'll be at the Laker game in March, paying 3 times as much for the same seats.
by LAs Only Raptor Fan on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
I don't understand why Raptors fans are so insecure. We should enjoy what we have and believe for the best.
At the end of last season we had 3 big concerns: Mitchell's contract, Jose/TJ debate and Andrea's development as a Center. Mitchell's contract has been settled by the organization, Jose/TJ debate has been settled by injuries and the only question mark left is Andrea's development. I personally think Andrea is a great talent however even if he turns out to be a bust the organization can recover from this.
We have a much better record than last year at this time and we blown-out the Nets (last year nemesis) and beat Dallas after 4 years. Sure, the development comes at a slower pace than people expected but that's reality and not a video game. Our guys are great characters, compete in every game and want to win. It is OK to criticize however the bigger picture should be always in the back of our minds.
I also noticed that on the other hand we don't believe enough in our guys. I for one believe that we can beat any team and go deeper in the play-offs than experts think.
It's actually a good time to be a Raptor fan. I like this team much more than VC era.
by Daniel on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
LA - Fire us an email at raptorshq@hooplife.ca - would love to get your candid thoughts from the Lake Show game in March. Nothing beats getting someone's take who's up close and personal.
I'm hoping for big things from Bargs tonight...
by Franchise on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
One important thing to remember re the Portland loss. Raptors are a Point Guard oriented team,needed to initiate the offense, due to a lack of talent able to initiate their own shots. The best they can hope to do with Martin is maintain status, which is tough in a close game. A situation that BC must address next year,a better 3rd PG and a scoring guard/small foreward who can create (ala Roy).
In tight games at the end when they need to score the best/only options are Bosh and Ford who can drive and score or draw fouls. Calderon does not have TJ's ability to get to the basket, but is a better game manager, who can score when open. Without TJ its up to Bosh. Vs Portland he did not score, Rap's lost, no surprise. All other factors aside( Mitchell's game mgmt) Bosh went 6mins and scored 1 basket with 8 secs left. This is not acceptable for our franchise/leader etc. at any time, for Raptors to win close games.
by Johnn19 on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Still don't understand why we don't cut D-Mart and pick-up Boykins? Even without a Garbs injury exemption, I believe the Raps would stil be basically under the cap.
by Acie on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
anyone elses screen shaking on raps tv?
i feel like my eyes are messed up and its gonna kill me if its like this the whole game
by big d on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions
All I have to say is "absolutely Pathetic Loss"! I'm completely speechless. Two games that the Raps let slip through their fingers. Good luck with the next 3 games... It's definitely going to be some tough match ups.
by Diesel on Dec 21, 2007 12:00 AM EST reply actions

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