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The End of Project Brazil aka Hoffa

RAPTORS DEAL BUST ARAUJO TO JAZZ FOR HUMPHRIES, WHALEY

This was ESPN.com's headline concerning Thursday's trade that sent the artist formerly known as Hoffa to the Utah Jazz in exchange for Kris Humphries and Robert Whaley.

-And it pretty much sums up Araujo's short stay with the Raptors.

Since being chosen over other players like Andre Iguodala, Robert Swift, Al Jefferson and Jameer Nelson in the 2004 NBA Draft, Araujo has been a constant source of malaise for the Raptors not to mention a key factor in MLSE's decision to fire former GM Rob Babcock.

Sure we've all heard the "Jack McCloskey made me do it" rebuttals but the bottom line here is this pick just didn't work out and it was time to move on. I've always been a Babcock defender to a certain extent but this is one move made on his watch where he deserves to bear the full brunt of criticism. In a rebuilding situation you just can't afford to have high picks be such dreadful failures, ESPECIALLY when you're making the pick based on the fact that the player is supposedly more "NBA-ready" than other players and fits a position need!

Think about this for a second.

Had Babcock taken Iguodala or even Jameer Nelson would this team, with last year's draft, have been a playoff team last season in the East? Would Toronto be a full year ahead of its rebuilding plan and have some extra trade leverage at the shooting guard/small forward spot to use this year? And furthermore, isn't there an interesting underlying point concerning the NBA draft here? If you aren't going to take the "upside athlete" (Iguodala) shouldn't you take the tried and tested college stud (Nelson) over a player who just happens to fit a position you need to fill (Hoffa)? Something perhaps to remember for this year when examining the likes of an Adam Morrison vs. an Andrea Bargnani...

Yes, hindsight really is 20/20. I mean, even though analysts now clamor that the Raps should have taken Jameer Nelson or some of the other players previously mentioned, I GUARANTEE Nelson at first would have been an equally panned pick, perhaps more so than Hoffa. Nelson was viewed as an even bigger stretch for the Raptors at 8 that year than Araujo even though he was coming off a "player of the year" season.

And of course as we've mentioned time and time again, the "experts" don't help matters. Take ESPN's Chad Ford, who went from this position immediately following Hoffa's selection:

"This is the first real surprise of the draft, though, if you look at it, it makes sense for the Raptors. They need a center in the worst, worst way. Chris Bosh is much more comfortable playing the four. Araujo is the only other big guy in the draft, other than Okafor, who is ready to play right now. He's strong, aggressive and isn't afraid to beat up people. He'll be a nice addition in Toronto, though he doesn't have the upside many of the other people on the board did."

to soon after:

"...GM Rob Babcock got off to a rocky start in Toronto last season. He blew the draft (selecting Rafael Araujo over Andre Iguodala, Al Jefferson and Josh and J.R. Smith)..."

While I enjoy reading Ford's columns for the insight he provides based on the access he is granted, examples like these just further the point that "experts" sure do have short memories!

...

So with project Hoffa off to Utah, what are the resulting implications of this deal?

Well for starters, by trading Araujo, obviously this ends the "well, maybe next year he'll break out" waiting game that Raps' management had been stuck in. At best, Hoffa continues to slim down and gets quicker becoming the second coming of Chris Mihm. (I still think the two make great comparisons considering Mihm's size and style of play when he was drafted out of Texas.) But that's at best so you cut your losses and move on. Even if Hoffa turned into the next Chris Mihm down the road, he simply doesn't fit into Bryan Colangelo's plans.

In return Toronto gets two interesting players.

Robert Whaley, as many of you will remember, was actually an HQ favourite as a possible late second round Raptors' pick last year. From the sounds of it, he was a throw-in to make the trade work regarding salaries and will be waived. However if kept, Whaley would give the Raps some depth at center and a shot-blocking threat albeit another Pape Sow type project.

Kris Humphries was Bryan Colangelo's main target in the trade and is an intriguing acquisition. Humphries played one season in college with Minnesota and while there became the first freshman to lead the Big Ten in both scoring and rebounding, and was the conference's freshman of the year and all-Big Ten first team. His college coach compared him to Karl Malone whereas Humphries saw himself as more of a Paul Pierce-type. Obviously Utah coach Jerry Sloan saw neither in Humphries and in two seasons Kris averaged 3.6 points, 2.7 rebounds and 11.6 minutes.

So is this simply a case of GM's trading for each others problem children? After all, here at the HQ we were totally prepared to simply buy Hoffa out and were hardly expecting Colangelo to get anything in return for the Brazilian. However Colangelo did. Humphries was a disappointment in Utah but I always felt a lot of that had to do with the system he was playing in, not on his true abilities. Humphries isn't really big enough to be a traditional 4 in the league and behind Carlos Boozer and Mehmet Okur, just wasn't getting the minutes. In addition, Humphries is much more of a shoot-first player than a defender, two things that don't necessarily bode well when you're playing for Jerry Sloan.

However Humphries could be a pleasant surprise in Toronto. He drew comparisons to Tom Gugliotta coming out of college based on his inside/outside abilities and he's got a great range of offensive moves in the paint. He's also a tremendous rebounder with a mean streak who has always shown up for camp in top shape and could probably back-up both the 3 and 4 spots for Toronto. In fact it's almost surprising that Humphries hasn't had more of an impact yet in the league. Playing for the Jazz's Summer League squad in the Rocky Mountain Revue last summer, Humphries was dominating both larger and smaller players (including the likes of Marvin Williams and Josh Smith) and seemed poised for a break-out season.

With a year left on his rookie contract the Raptors will now get to evaluate Humphries for a season and hope to provide the right environment to facilitate such a break-out. At worst Humphries never does take that next step but with Hoffa's escargot-esque development these past two years, I think this is a chance we're all willing to take.

And in a sense this is almost another kick at the can for Toronto, a revist of sorts to the 2004 draft. Essentially Toronto has now traded the eighth pick in that draft for the 14th pick and the right to Utah's second round pick in the 2005 draft. Hopefully this mulligan provides better results than their first attempt ala Babcock. But even if it doesn't, Raptors fans can take some solace in one blown pick by looking in comparison at Utah's last first-round selections.

DeShawn Stevenson
(No. 23 in 2000)

Raul Lopez
(No. 24 in 2001)

Curtis Borchardt
(No. 18 in 2002)

Sasha Pavlovic
(No. 19 in 2003)

Kirk Snyder
(No. 16 in 2004)

Kris Humphries
(No. 14 in 2004)

It now suddenly doesn't seem so surprising that the Jazz wants to take a chance with Hoffa...

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Holy crap until i saw that list i didn't realize how bad utah's draft hsitory has been over the last 5 seasons....
I am happy Hoffa will get a chance in an environment he is more comfortable with and in return the raps get a bit of salary relief and a new player to experiment with

by Nat on Jun 10, 2006 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I have the best marketing plan ever.. Let the fans vote who the raptors should select in the 2nd round. Since the inception of the team, no 2nd round draft pick by the Raptors have had any impact whatsoever, so why not let the fans like us take a crack?

Take a look:

1995 - Jimmy King Michigan
1998 - Tyson Wheeler Rhode Island
2000 - DeeAndre Hulett USBL
2003 - Remon Van de Hare F.C. Barcelona (Spain)
2004 - Albert Miralles (Spain)
2005 - Roko Ukic (Croatia)

What's surprising is that we've only had 6 picks in the 10 years of draft, and we sure like them Spanish Tapas!

Maybe we could have a poll for potential 2nd rounders here on Rap.Fan? Could we do any worse?

by ustation on Jun 10, 2006 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

My favourite aspect of this trade is this: we traded a 25 year old who has shown that his potential for improvement is extremelly limited in exchange for a 21 year old who may have made the jump to the league too early and whose development has been stunted ever since. His potential alone, plus the fact that any minutes Hoffa may have wasted on the court can now be given to someone else, are reason enough to assume we'll win on this tradel.

by Rory on Jun 10, 2006 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow have you guys heard the latest rumours which involve bringing Jermaine Oneal in for the first pick in some sort of package.

by !~LIL Scrappy~! on Jun 11, 2006 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would we want to trade our #1 pick for Jermaine O'Neal? O'Neal is a good player, but don't we already have an all-star power forward in Bosh and a pretty good power/small forward in Villaneuva? Sounds like a bunch of pre-draft hype. I can't see Colangelo going for this deal. If anything, I think I'd prefer the draft pick for Pau Gasol rumours that I've read. Of all the rumours that I've read, I think keeping the #1 to pick Aldridge (or Bargnani) is the best choice.

by Hans on Jun 11, 2006 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

please don't bring JO to TO. He is injury prone, has a massive contract, and would take touches away from our franchise player CB4.

by Matt on Jun 11, 2006 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Aldridge makes the most sense to me. Big upside, talented, AND the right position.

by benjibopper on Jun 11, 2006 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont like JO attitude. Very selfish. It seems to me that he pretends to care about the team, and pretends (tries) to be a leader, but really is more concerened with himself, his stats, and the money he is making.

How many times have we heard o'neal complain about something. Plus lately he seems to be injury prone. I wouldnt want him.

I also like the Gasol rumors because Gasol can play center, low post scorer, run, defend, and pass quite nicely.

by scott on Jun 12, 2006 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah, Utah...where leadfoot centres go to pasture (Eaton, Ostertag, Borchardt and now Hoffa, although Eaton was actually half decent). I'm not sure how much court time Humphries will get here, especially if the Raps draft a swingman like Roy or Gay in the draft, but at least he's intriguing, which is more than you can say about Hoffa.

by Skywalker on Jun 13, 2006 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey all good luck with this trade. This trade is really no more important for the successes of either team than if we decided to trade mascots. Humphries is horrible and will continue to be horrible regardless how old he is or how much PT he gets. Haffa is equally terrible. Waley will be playing in the CBA in a month. This is simply a matter of two teams trying to get rid of their trash. You people crack me up. You are trying to put a shine on a turd by placing any hope in Humphries. He looks utterly and completely lost in the pro game. Good Luck.
Eaton was a very good center by the way Skywalker. He was an allstar and look at his BPG averages. His offensive game was offensive but he was one of the better defensive centers the league has seen in the past 25 years.

by Moab on Jul 20, 2006 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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