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Around the Mocks: June 24

Now that the lottery is over every few days we here at Raptorshq.com will be looking at a number of mock drafts and give some feedback on who they have slotted at the 7 and 16 spots.

Draftexpress.com UPDATED: June 24

At 7: Danny Granger (H: 6’8” W: 215 Pos: SF Age: 22)

Pros: A senior, so should be able to contribute immediately. We here at Raptorshq love this guy and are excited at the prospect of drafting him. Loves to play defence, a solid wing defender. Defense is a key for this team and by defending the outside it would make the lives of the big men much easier. The team passed on Andre Iguodala last year. Picking Granger could make up for it. Can do it all. Best of all he loves Toronto and actually WANTS to be here.

Cons: Does not have “elite” written on any part of his game, but that could change with time. Although a good prospect, you have to wonder if he would get playing time if the roster stays the same. Rose, MoPete, Eric Williams, and even Bonner all play the three. There will have to be some roster moves. The other concern is the franchise is not exactly full of passers.

At 16: Jarrett Jack (H:6'3" W:202 Pos: PG Age: 21)

Pros: This is who Raptorshq.com has slotted at 16 in the mock draft. The guy is “Jacked” and still has a decent first step. Is willing to go to the hoop and can both finish and dish. Plays hard at all times and during the tourney (although hurt) did his best to lead the Yellow Jackets. He has the ability to post his defender up (think Payton on Rafer this year) and has good court vision. He could be the second coming of Billups with similar game and frame.

Cons: Much like Granger, there is no one part of his game that will blow you away. His outside shot (like most players in the draft) could be more consistent. Not going to blow by anyone but, on a team that likes to run, the ability to change the pace of the game could be beneficial. How much more is Jack's game going to grow?

Conclusion: If Granger wants to be here then this should be the pick, hands down. A potential Marion is too hard to pass up. We here at rapshq would love Jack but this may be high and he doesn't seem to have the same upside as Roko, that being said his immediate contribution might be better. This draft would make the franchise A LOT better.

www.nbadraft.net UPDATED: June 24

At 7: Antoine Wright (H: 6'6" W: 203 Pos: SG Age: 21)

Pros: A true shooting guard with a similar game to Rip Hamilton in that he has a great mid-range game. That being said he is a much better athlete than Rip. Can score from pretty much anywhere and at a high percentage. Also a fearless defender.

Cons: SOFT, or at least has a reputation for being that way. Could probably take it to the rack everytime he touches the ball but likes to pull up. If he can hit at a high percentage though then this really is not that big of a weakness. Needs to stay aggresive at all times and has enough ability to be a great contributor. This city will not stand for jump shots when a solid drive is available, too many memories of VC.

At 16: Andrew Bynum (H: 7' W: 280 Pos: C Age: 17)

Pros: Could become a great big man based on what he has showed in his workouts. A good touch cannot be taught. If he were to develop a solid low post game the playbook for the front court a few years from now could be huge. High-lows, even pick and rolls as Bosh continues to develop a strong handle.

Cons: Weight issues and development. The Raptors staff does not have anyone to teach the young post players how to in fact play the post. English was a forward, Triano a guard and Mitchell a forward, none of whom played with a post-up game. With the new CBA allowing for team options after year 2, there could be too much pressure on a big guy out of high-school. He is only 17, that's right born in 1987!

Conclusion: Would be an interesting draft but now there are rumours that Bynum may be gone by 16. If he is don't feel bad Raps fans because anything before this spot is way too high for Captain Stay Puff. Wright would be a nice addition but is strictly a SG while someone like Granger can play SG and SF. Still decent talent and would not be a bad draft.

RealGM.com UPDATED: June 23

At 7: Gerald Green: (H: 6’7” W: 192 Pos: SG/SF Age: 19)

Pros: This would be a steal at 7. He has MAD hops and a decent looking jumper already. Mitchell helped with KG's development and could develop a strong relationship with him. Best case scenario would be another TMAC, but one who stays. Has a good ball handling skills already and would turn the situation in Raps land into an optimistic one.

Cons: Rumours of immaturity. Because of his lack of size, Green might be scared of the rack and the possibility of running into a Fortson or Cato. All of this should be fixable if the Raps settle themselves as a franchise and provide the right support staff and atmosphere.

At 16: Roko Leni-Ukic (H: 6'5" W: 183 lbs. Pos: PG Age: 21)

Pros: Having a tall "true" PG is never a bad thing but one has to hope he starts to put some weight on yet without losing any quickness. He has had some solid workouts which is always a positive. No one here wants a Tskitishvili part II. Supposedly a top 3-4 PG in this years draft, and apparently Boston has the hots for him.

Cons: Let's be honest, even if the workouts go well, the Raptors need guys who can contribute right away and Roko's and development does not seem favourable in this regard. That being said he seems determined to stay in this years draft. A concern over shot selection will definitely throw up some red flags for this franchise.

Conclusion: As the days countdown to the draft more and more mock sites are leaning in this direction. Green would be solid and something to get excited about and we know that Roko is something that this team has virtually never had, a tall and versatile point guard. Two very young building blocks who could perhaps contribute more that expected right out of the gates. Would be interesting to see if they played summer with Omar, Hoffa, Pape, and Bonner what kind of connection they could make.

Hoopshype.com UPDATE: June 23

At 7: Danny Granger (H: 6’8” W: 215 Pos: SF Age: 22)

See above for analysis.

At 16: Chris Taft (H: 6’10” W: 261 Pos: PF Age: 20)

Pros: Build the body of the perfect PF you may get Taft. Extremely well build, does not need to add weight, has the potential to be huge. Was predicted at the beginning of the year to maybe go first overall. Good wing span.

Cons: Effort, effort and more effort. His heart is being questioned almost on a daily basis ever since the NCAA season began. Has walked into buildings to play ball and never really showed up. Supposedly a bad workout for the Raps although he has played better lately.

Conclusion: Well obviously the success of this draft would hinge on Taft's ability to play up to his potential. Granger is going to be a player. If you are getting slammed by the media everyday and watch your stock fall quicker than Enron's how do you not try and take it up a notch. There are red flags everywhere and Babcock came away genuinely unimpressed. Doubtful this is how the draft plays out for the Raps, but we all are well acquainted with the term "SMOKESCREEN".

espn.com UPDATE: June 22

At 7: Gerald Green: (H: 6’7” W: 192 Pos: SG/SF Age: 19)

See above for analysis.

At 16: Andrew Bynum (H: 7' W: 280 Pos: C Age: 17)

See above for analysis.

Conclusion: LONG TERM. That is all you think when you see this draft, no playoffs for years to come. That being said if these guys develop in the next year and a half it could give Bosh a couple of GREAT reasons to stick around. There would however be a complete shut-down of all buffets, and Rol San on Spadina to ensure Bynum doesn't go Sweetney on the team. Depends on what you are drafting for, now or two years from now. Green without a doubt could be an absolute star.

www.cnnsi.com UPDATE: June 22

At 7: Channing Frye (H: 6'11" W: 243 Pos: PF/C Age: 22)

Pros: A great athlete considering his size. His high value in this year's draft seems to have come out of nowhere. Would provide front court help and would make a very athletic front court with Bosh. For a team who showed good ability to run and push the ball last year, this pick could make sense. Known for being a calming presence in the locker room and, considering the characters in there now, this cannot be a bad thing.

Cons: Will not bang, and will not protect the hoop. Mostly a face-up player with no real post moves to speak of. In fact, his rebounding abilities have to be questioned as well. For a team that actually let a guy lying on the floor get a rebound this year that is not helpful. Not sure if he adds much to the team in terms of need. Defence and rebounding is something the front court is begging for. These are, unfortunately, Frye's weaknesses.

At 16: Roko Leni-Ukic

See above for analysis.

Conclusion: Well the draft could have been better if this is the way it shapes up. We here at Raptorshq view Frye as overrated and would rather see him in NY. There is just too much pure talent out there to take Frye so high in the draft. Roko again. Why does this pick seem set in stone?

tsn.ca UPDATED: June 21

At 7: Danny Granger (H: 6’8” W: 215 Pos: SF Age: 22)

See above for analysis.

At 16: Jarrett Jack (H:6'3" W:202 Pos: PG Age: 21)

See above for analysis.

Conclusion: If this is the way the draft turns out for the Raps, you wouldn't think there would be any complaints. However, we here at Raptorshq.com believe one member of Toronto press will moan and boo unless somehow we draft Michael Jordan and Larry Bird. Taking these two guys would add a great deal of young talent with unlimited upside. Both would contribute right away, would play tough defense and really add some new dimensions. Jack has already come out and said he would love to play in TO. The one draw back of this draft? That would give us 3 PG's if you include Omar, leaving Chuck Swirsky disappointed as Nate Robinson ends up elsewhere.

Thescore.ca UPDATED: June 16

At 7: Channing Frye (H: 6'11" W: 243 Pos: PF/C Age: 22)

See above for analysis.

At 16: Hakim Warrick (H: 6'8" W: 210 Pos: PF Age: 22)

Pros: Like Felton, this guy is a purebred race horse who runs the floor and beats his man every chance he gets. Comes from a strong program in Syracuse and we're sure Leo Rautins is hoping this kid ends up a Raptor. An athletic player whose aerial performances would add some excitement.

Cons: Too small to play the PF in the NBA which should bring up red flags everywhere as he doesn't have the game (yet) to play the SF. He did not handle the ball much in college and has an inconsistent, yet improving jumper. A classic tweener. The problem here lies in the fact that he may not be able to develop the skills to make a difficult positional change in the pros.

Conclusion: Well, Warrick is now claiming he has a promise from Golden State and did not work out for the Nets, who own the 15th pick. If that's the case, then obviously this mock is off base. A draft like this would make the Raps much more athletic but neither would bring anything to the table defensively. Fact of the matter is we here at Raptorshq.com think Frye is a tad overrated (Loren Woods version 2.0?).

Insidehoops.com UPDATED: June 15

See tsn.ca update. Same mock.

- Dave Randell

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Why are we not drafting Kevin Pittsnoggle? And who else would like to see Loren Woods and Alex Rios wrestle for "boniest man in Toronto" supremacy?

by Craig Ehlo on May 30, 2005 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Pittsnoggle is headed for Europe. He shouldn't have come out.

With a couple of years in Europe, he might be able to come back as the White Trash version of Matt Bullard.

by RapsFan on May 30, 2005 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Great article. Bottom line is the Raps need some athleticism NOW. Graham or Warrick would be a great pick at 16. At 7, I like Felton but the question then becomes what to do with Rafer. We'd do well to get rid of him, but it'll be tough to get anything in return for him and his contract is a problem.

by Fish on May 30, 2005 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Great summary and analysis. Saves having to continuously check out multiple sites. The Raps have so many needs (outside of PF) that's it's tough to decide where best to satrt. PG seems a good choice though (allowing a shift of Rafer to SG?).

by AndOne on May 30, 2005 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Fish, I completely agree. For a team that likes to get out and run the break they sure have some guys who don't fit the mold. Jalen is not as spry as he used to be and will soon be in the same category as C Webb. Warrick is athletic but the guy can't shoot!

by Howland on May 31, 2005 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd Love to see Felton on the Raptors. May not be the best shooter ever but he loves to push the ball and get his team involved. At 16 a big man who's not afraid of contact would be nice...not sure about May and Warrick but I doubt they'll be around at this pick anyways. I like Villanueva and Splitter, as well as Graham although his ideal position may not fit in well with the Raps.

by Cr0ss on Jun 1, 2005 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Am I the only one who is scared of Felton? I was not impressed after seeing him in Syracuse for two games and he seems to have lapses where he'll commit turnovers in bunches. I'm really intruiged by Omar Cook, who I believe would have been a senior at St. John's this year. I think it's a mistake to take a PG in the first round.

by Lion on Jun 2, 2005 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Do you guys think Taft will fall to the 2nd round? Should we pick him up at 38 if he's still around?

by Sam Bowie on Jun 16, 2005 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Taft has too much 'potential' to fall that far. I think a playoff team will pick him up in the early 20s. I can see him having a Stromile Swift impact in a few years, but I can't see him as a reliable, consistent low post presence.

by Lion on Jun 17, 2005 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

What is with all this talk about a PG? I'm no Raptors fan but last time I checked they have both Rafer and Omar Cook. If anything they should dump Rafer (good luck after last year and the deal they gave him) and give Omar a solid look at PG, remember how long it took someone like Chauncey Billiups (or even Steve Nash) to learn how to play the point in the NBA. As for the picks above I think it would be a huge mistake for the Raptors to take either Villanueva or Taft, remember some other so-called can't miss prospects with 'attitude' problems - Eddie Girffin, Travis Outlaw, to name only a couple. Sure Griffin might average 12/10/2 next year or he might go postal if he goes off his meds. As for who they should consider, at 7 seems like Danny Granger or Antoine Wright is the best choice. Graham will be a Desmond Mason clone (not that that is all bad), Channing Frye couldn't defend the hoop on a junior high girl's team, Hakim Warrick would be a good pick at 16 IF he can figure out how to turn himself into a small forward (think Shawn Marion). At 16 Sean May is the obvious choice. His weight is a little bit of a concern but Charles Barkley was fat and out of shape until he went to Phoenix and still did alright. You can't teach someone to have the kind of hands May does - he could play right away. The real problem the Raptors have is their GM. Granted he hasn't had much of a chance yet, but so far he blows. How is it that they are going to get nothing this summer for Marshall? How could he have drafted Araujo? The Rafer deal? The list goes on. Hopefully he will wise up this draft because it would be nice to want to watch the Raptors play again. Oh and by the way Morris Peterson needs to be on the next train outta town.

by Wawa on Jun 21, 2005 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm all for giving Omar a chance. His one year at St. John's I thought he was great, but he's the poster boy (with Carl English) of declaring too early.

I think dealing Rafer, if possible, is a good option, but I'd prefer Wayne Simien at 16 than Sean May.

by Lion on Jun 24, 2005 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Rol San...that's jokes

by Maximo on Jun 26, 2005 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

The Raptor needs are at the back-end. They should take Wright at No. 7 for the explosive game he has and the ability to play defence. The Raptors need someone to take over from Jalene. He(Jalene) has already stated, he wants a ring. That means he is gone in 2006-07. He may be gone via a trade during the 2005-06 season. Wright would be the best choice. At 16, let's face it, the back-end has too many turnovers, bad shots, and not utilizing the clock properly. The teams needs somenone who can pick them up and elevate their game. Roko Leni-Ukic fits the mold of a Steve Nash with a little more height. His game will only improve in the NBA.

by bruce on Jun 27, 2005 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

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